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Character-trained models can struggle to generalise
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Character-trained models can struggle to generalise

LessWrong · May 25, 2026, 12:58 PM

TL;DRCharacter training holds up in chat but degrades in agentic settings. Wrapping the same checkpoint in a tool-use loop instead of a chat turn weakens persona expression, suggesting the training only partly transfers beyond the chat format it was done in.Summary Maiya et al. fine-tune three base models (Llama-3.1-8B, Qwen-2.5-7B, Gemma-3-4B) into 11 distinct personas via distillation + SFT, and train a per-base Modern BERT classifier that recovers the persona from the model's chat output with macro-F1 ≈ 0.86–0.95 on held-out PURE-DOVE prompts.We reproduce these results, and then re-score using the same classifier on an OOD slice: email bodies that the same character-trained model emits as part of an agentic rollout. On this distribution, the classifier's macro-F1 drops to 0.29–0.55, which constitutes a ~40–60-point gap for the same underlying persona.The drop is uneven across personas. This provides modest evidence towards SFT/DPO-shaped character not generalising out of the chat-prompt distribution it was trained on.BackgroundCharacter training as in OpenCharacterTraining. Maiya et al.'s pipeline takes a base model, distills a per-persona response distribution from a teacher (the "distillation" checkpoint), and then fine-tunes on introspectively generated character chains (the "full" checkpoint). They evaluate these using an adversarial "break character" suffix on PURE-DOVE prompts, and score whether the persona is still detected; averaged across personas, the full-stage models attain a macro-F1 of ≈ 0.86–0.95 on a ModernBERT trait classifier.We expect this to be fragile under OOD for two reasons:Li et al. explain that SFT-shaped alignment policies often fail to generalise from chat-format training data to agentic rollouts. The argument is that a behaviour learned over a narrow input-shape distribution can be strongly cued by its surface features, and disappear once the surface changes.Kutasov et al. follows a parallel constructive line, and argues that giving the

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